Abbi Secraa - rant, vent and complaint thread

[Connoisseur Junky]

She has one of the rarest physique on earth - creamy pink skin, big blue eyes, fair hair surrounding pleasing facial features.. and those tits - macromastic yet symmetric, teardrop shaped yet still inflated and full bodied. tits / areola / nipples proportions are classical and the color contrast is perfect. and to top it all - she is an actual nude model with her own site and regular updates! things should've been perfect...

Alas, Secraa's content is creating a controversy within the bigtit community - while some fans are inclined to worship and gratitude towards this earthly goddess, admiring her for every bit of content she bestows upon them, Others have harbored resentful bitter feelings of disappointment, as if betrayed by the gods every time a new set or video has come out.

what is the root of this discontent? well, one part falls to the poor technical quality, photography, video editing, lighting and color correction of the content. moreover, it seems like very little thought is invested in set design, direction, narrative \ conceptual aspects etc. which results in repetitive, boring content where crucial artistic decisions are made arbitrarily, with a sense of carelessness or even to spite!

another, more sensitive issue, is Secraa's modelling skills. while she does try to entertain the genre's conventions with the appropriate looks, moves and swings, it all seems half-hearted and a bit awkward. while for some her reluctant demeanor is like a fire in the loins (claiming authenticity and realism or that they don't care about anything but the actual tit-meat) others are held in a limbo loop of disappointment - seeing the previews of her content and getting so excited about the potential - only to meet the same lazy production values, and find themselves *bored* in the face of the most desirable figure ever, naked.. a heartbreaking condition indeed.

this thread is dedicated to these poor haunted souls, those whose lust and love for Secraa has been mixed with countless disappointments but still care enough to discuss it with passion and attention to detail. here is the place to criticize, moan, curse and dream of a better future (or at least a better photographer).. make sure to post examples of the worst crimes her staff is committing with her content and reference the latest sets / clips.

the total fans are also welcome if you feel like a bit of a quarrel.. and if we're on the subject.. this thread is meant to be good fun so please enjoy it and dont take it too seriously..

attached - one of the worst disappointments ever - the underwater clip - 19 minutes of the same ugly cropped view watching those amazing tits wane and swing without context or personality.. no other angles or poses, no face shots.. disgusting light and color correction.. just.. a big boring sad

 

[Jojah]

Thank you Connoisseur Junky for starting this thread! While I love following the Nelli Roono / Abbi Secraa Appreciation Thread, I feel very tentative about posting anything that is not 100% positive. You nailed it in your opening post; Abbi has a legendary body and a “C-“ video production quality.

Where's jastersons? This board must have his insight and bitter wit.

 

[Connoisseur Junky]

Where's jastersons? This board must have his insight and bitter wit.

next time some1 starts ranting on the appreciation thread we should just refer to this one

 

[Cleavage Craver]

jastersons is a troll, we never need him to diss our Abbi. He's said way too much crap already.

As i said before, wish people would just stop putting her and the quality of her content down. Just appreciate her for what she is, a very sexy, gorgeous woman. It could all end tomorrow, keep that in mind.

 

[Jojah]

jastersons is a troll, we never need him to diss our Abbi. He's said way too much crap already.

As i said before, wish people would just stop putting her and the quality of her content down. Just appreciate her for what she is, a very sexy, gorgeous woman. It could all end tomorrow, keep that in mind.

So you're here on this thread to complain about the complainers?

 

[KarlosChaos]

My 2 pence worth. I can only surmise this as I know nothing about what happens in the background but I get the impression the entire "industry" behind all of her output is 1 person only - her husband. He's probably a bit tech savvy, knows how to use a fairly decent camera for both stills & movies, probably knows basic editing skills etc. & that's about it. They've both realised there's easy money to be made from her tits so why the hell not. They both agree on how far the output goes in terms of "strength" & are both totally cool with it. Possibly a bit of outside help with the actual running of the website itself i.e. coding etc. but apart from that all very much "in-house". Essentially it's the whole Milena Velba story again but at a slightly softer level & without the budget or fat fingers. You pays your money, you takes your choice. There are a thousand other women out there who will use dildos/trashy make-up/full wardrobe dept. blah blah under the direction of a name brand like PUF/Score & who makes all the money then? Good luck to them both I say. I never expect to see anything other than what I do see with every release & honestly don't want to see anything else because if that does happen I think it would be for the worse not better. Feel free to correct my guessing on this if the reality is different.

 

[Cleavage Craver]

So you're here on this thread to complain about the complainers?

indeed.

 

[Connoisseur Junky]

indeed.

dont you think its a bit unique that abbi is drawing this kind of frustrated feedback? I dont believe I saw similar things in other appreciation threads and i think it says something of the admiration we feel towards her..

for me, watching (most of) abbi's content its like seeing the most exquisite fresh produce and ingredients botched to a mediocre meal by some helpless cook . or a beautiful piece of rare dense wood used without care and knowledge by some diy carpenter with rusty, dull tools. or letting a teenage driver drive a Ferrari.. you get the point..

so in a way, the complaints are really the cries of a betrayed and jealous admirer and certainly not putting her down..

 

[Jaeman84]

She has one of the rarest physique on earth - creamy pink skin, big blue eyes, fair hair surrounding pleasing facial features.. and those tits - macromastic yet symmetric, teardrop shaped yet still inflated and full bodied. tits / areola / nipples proportions are classical and the color contrast is perfect. and to top it all - she is an actual nude model with her own site and regular updates! things should've been perfect...

Alas, Secraa's content is creating a controversy within the bigtit community - while some fans are inclined to worship and gratitude towards this earthly goddess, admiring her for every bit of content she bestows upon them, Others have harbored resentful bitter feelings of disappointment, as if betrayed by the gods every time a new set or video has come out.

what is the root of this discontent? well, one part falls to the poor technical quality, photography, video editing, lighting and color correction of the content. moreover, it seems like very little thought is invested in set design, direction, narrative \ conceptual aspects etc. which results in repetitive, boring content where crucial artistic decisions are made arbitrarily, with a sense of carelessness or even to spite!

another, more sensitive issue, is Secraa's modelling skills. while she does try to entertain the genre's conventions with the appropriate looks, moves and swings, it all seems half-hearted and a bit awkward. while for some her reluctant demeanor is like a fire in the loins (claiming authenticity and realism or that they don't care about anything but the actual tit-meat) others are held in a limbo loop of disappointment - seeing the previews of her content and getting so excited about the potential - only to meet the same lazy production values, and find themselves *bored* in the face of the most desirable figure ever, naked.. a heartbreaking condition indeed.

this thread is dedicated to these poor haunted souls, those whose lust and love for Secraa has been mixed with countless disappointments but still care enough to discuss it with passion and attention to detail. here is the place to criticize, moan, curse and dream of a better future (or at least a better photographer).. make sure to post examples of the worst crimes her staff is committing with her content and reference the latest sets / clips.

the total fans are also welcome if you feel like a bit of a quarrel.. and if we're on the subject.. this thread is meant to be good fun so please enjoy it and dont take it too seriously..

attached - one of the worst disappointments ever - the underwater clip - 19 minutes of the same ugly cropped view watching those amazing tits wane and swing without context or personality.. no other angles or poses, no face shots.. disgusting light and color correction.. just.. a big boring sad

Not going to lie I downloaded that video, watched it then erased it immediately!

 

[Jojah]

She has one of the rarest physique on earth - creamy pink skin, big blue eyes, fair hair surrounding pleasing facial features.. and those tits - macromastic yet symmetric, teardrop shaped yet still inflated and full bodied. tits / areola / nipples proportions are classical and the color contrast is perfect. and to top it all - she is an actual nude model with her own site and regular updates! things should've been perfect...

Alas, Secraa's content is creating a controversy within the bigtit community - while some fans are inclined to worship and gratitude towards this earthly goddess, admiring her for every bit of content she bestows upon them, Others have harbored resentful bitter feelings of disappointment, as if betrayed by the gods every time a new set or video has come out.

what is the root of this discontent? well, one part falls to the poor technical quality, photography, video editing, lighting and color correction of the content. moreover, it seems like very little thought is invested in set design, direction, narrative \ conceptual aspects etc. which results in repetitive, boring content where crucial artistic decisions are made arbitrarily, with a sense of carelessness or even to spite!

another, more sensitive issue, is Secraa's modelling skills. while she does try to entertain the genre's conventions with the appropriate looks, moves and swings, it all seems half-hearted and a bit awkward. while for some her reluctant demeanor is like a fire in the loins (claiming authenticity and realism or that they don't care about anything but the actual tit-meat) others are held in a limbo loop of disappointment - seeing the previews of her content and getting so excited about the potential - only to meet the same lazy production values, and find themselves *bored* in the face of the most desirable figure ever, naked.. a heartbreaking condition indeed.

this thread is dedicated to these poor haunted souls, those whose lust and love for Secraa has been mixed with countless disappointments but still care enough to discuss it with passion and attention to detail. here is the place to criticize, moan, curse and dream of a better future (or at least a better photographer).. make sure to post examples of the worst crimes her staff is committing with her content and reference the latest sets / clips.

the total fans are also welcome if you feel like a bit of a quarrel.. and if we're on the subject.. this thread is meant to be good fun so please enjoy it and dont take it too seriously..

attached - one of the worst disappointments ever - the underwater clip - 19 minutes of the same ugly cropped view watching those amazing tits wane and swing without context or personality.. no other angles or poses, no face shots.. disgusting light and color correction.. just.. a big boring sad

I do agree that it was not a video I kept on my hard drive for long. However, I’d say it was bravely different than most of her normal stuff. I’d give it a”F” for overall content but, a “B+” for trying something different and daring.

 

[Connoisseur Junky]

Not going to lie I downloaded that video, watched it then erased it immediately!

I wish I was as easy-going but unfortunately I'm compelled to keep the complete archive at my disposal..

I do agree that it was not a video I kept on my hard drive for long. However, I’d say it was bravely different than most of her normal stuff. I’d give it a”F” for overall content but, a “B+” for trying something different and daring.

The worst critique you can get IMO is - "good concept but poor execution" but i guess you can say that about a lot of abbi's work It was especially frustrating because Abbi has hardly good bathtub clips and the underwater angle if used in moderation and smartly could add an original touch to a beautiful bath clip.

Seeing them sway in the water is spectacular but Abbi is pretty reserved about it.. the pool clips (green bikini / black swimsuit) has a little of the sweet stuff..

 

[Jojah]

Man, the new photo set “To Seduce You” doesn’t really look all that exciting or is it just me? It seems like it’s kinda a copy of a bunch of older sets. Nothing really exciting (other than the fact that it’s new content from Abbi). Bummer. I was hoping for another streak of amazing Abbi content.

 

[Nofrau]

I've responded to several rants recently, seemingly from paying customers, and will give the short answer.
It's not a very sophisticated side of the sex industry when it comes to super beautiful women with gigantic to freakishly huge tits.
The models, both amateur, professional and whatever, don't seem to be all that motivated sexually IRL, and it tends to show on camera.
Wilder and better sex = better models because they can bring that to the shoot

Lots of terrible angles are used, models are framed WAY too fucking close so you can't see they're only 5'4 and so on.
Abbi has a ton of hit and miss content.
Too many make the same content and it's been 10 years, some even longer.
Some do live camming a lot, but camming for all areas of sex camming, does a mediocre revenue compared to women that perform with their real life partner, and sometimes the partner isn't marketable sexually, and drives customers away! lol

I piss people off, but honestly I think any internet model with gigantic tits, a beautiful face and has amassed a following for 10 years, may as well find a well endowed man, and just start fucking him on cam, and using him off cam to make the photo sets seductive.
I know most don't make a fortune and some produce just enough content to live a normal life, and some of the most famous, still active and older models, say they no longer make a cent.
It's just not a very well structured side of the sex industry; pinup fetish models.

There is no natural huge tits taking monster cock hardcore porno market, which is absolutely fucking bizarre that it doesn't exist.
Most models most people would look at, won't do it, and the ones that do, are scattered around rather than creating a cornered area of the industry.
The models hot enough to advance the industry, won't fuck on camera, even if it's strictly the boyfriend or husband, so the industry will just remain weird. I don't want to look at giant tits for 3 hours straight. I want to look for less than an hour, eventually a gigantic dick relative to my own is in this woman's mouth, her cleavage, her pussy, she genuinely can't get enough of it, and the product is sold.

In general, voluptuous models leave me more sexually frustrated than satisfied 99% of the time.
That's probably why it's not a popular side of the industry; you can see it but finding it IRL is a lot of work.
Most of all I will say it again, I think like most women in general, majority of these women that satisfy our desires, have never been fucked all that well. It's the case with most women I talk to, so I don't think it's any different just because she has giant tits.
We see enough of their personal lives in these really awkward, postage stamp sized glimpses, and each and every single fucking time my only thought is, "that guy doesn't fuck her worth a damn".

Some videos the bf or husband is truly just a simp and I'm thinking "how are you not all over her dressed like that, walking down the street together?!?"
You don't know what you've been missing until you've had it, but the big boob modeling industry seems to be run by people that don't know wtf to do with women built like this, be it on or off camera.
Even fully clothed models my only thought is, "if you were getting fucked right, you would be producing content 10 times a day, and have to delete half of it because you'd end up naked every 5 minutes."
It's just a totally unstructured and struggling side of the industry.

 

[Connoisseur Junky]

I've responded to several rants recently, seemingly from paying customers, and will give the short answer.
It's not a very sophisticated side of the sex industry when it comes to super beautiful women with gigantic to freakishly huge tits.
The models, both amateur, professional and whatever, don't seem to be all that motivated sexually IRL, and it tends to show on camera.
Wilder and better sex = better models because they can bring that to the shoot

Lots of terrible angles are used, models are framed WAY too fucking close so you can't see they're only 5'4 and so on.
Abbi has a ton of hit and miss content.
Too many make the same content and it's been 10 years, some even longer.
Some do live camming a lot, but camming for all areas of sex camming, does a mediocre revenue compared to women that perform with their real life partner, and sometimes the partner isn't marketable sexually, and drives customers away! lol

I piss people off, but honestly I think any internet model with gigantic tits, a beautiful face and has amassed a following for 10 years, may as well find a well endowed man, and just start fucking him on cam, and using him off cam to make the photo sets seductive.
I know most don't make a fortune and some produce just enough content to live a normal life, and some of the most famous, still active and older models, say they no longer make a cent.
It's just not a very well structured side of the sex industry; pinup fetish models.

There is no natural huge tits taking monster cock hardcore porno market, which is absolutely fucking bizarre that it doesn't exist.
Most models most people would look at, won't do it, and the ones that do, are scattered around rather than creating a cornered area of the industry.
The models hot enough to advance the industry, won't fuck on camera, even if it's strictly the boyfriend or husband, so the industry will just remain weird. I don't want to look at giant tits for 3 hours straight. I want to look for less than an hour, eventually a gigantic dick relative to my own is in this woman's mouth, her cleavage, her pussy, she genuinely can't get enough of it, and the product is sold.

In general, voluptuous models leave me more sexually frustrated than satisfied 99% of the time.
That's probably why it's not a popular side of the industry; you can see it but finding it IRL is a lot of work.
Most of all I will say it again, I think like most women in general, majority of these women that satisfy our desires, have never been fucked all that well. It's the case with most women I talk to, so I don't think it's any different just because she has giant tits.
We see enough of their personal lives in these really awkward, postage stamp sized glimpses, and each and every single fucking time my only thought is, "that guy doesn't fuck her worth a damn".

Some videos the bf or husband is truly just a simp and I'm thinking "how are you not all over her dressed like that, walking down the street together?!?"
You don't know what you've been missing until you've had it, but the big boob modeling industry seems to be run by people that don't know wtf to do with women built like this, be it on or off camera.
Even fully clothed models my only thought is, "if you were getting fucked right, you would be producing content 10 times a day, and have to delete half of it because you'd end up naked every 5 minutes."
It's just a totally unstructured and struggling side of the industry.

I think you are barking up the wrong tree here.. I really dont believe converting to hardcore would solve Abbi's content \ performance problems. we have seen reluctant hardcore from beauties such as Alaura Grey and Miosotis and frankly its even more depressing.

I get what you mean about bringing sex to the photoshoot but with Secraa I think its another issue.. I think she is actually just not really happy about her tits and, like many well endowed women, is looking down on boob-worshipping men as simps. (and if we are on the subject, not all men in this niche are helpless as Abbi's staff.. Daktari is a master and there are other good examples like Samanta Lily's partner)

If I could train Abbi, sex would be the last step we would take.. first she needs yoga, dance and acting/modelling classes and maybe some psycho-drama and therapy-talk.. after she is happier and feels relaxed in her body - then we can insert sex to the equation.

I do agree that the pay-site-per-model business model seems outdated and it looks like the future is in all sorts of camming and personal engagement in the cost of production value...

 

[BTF84]

Agreed it could all be better. Shes lazy, production is lazy, movies are rushed.
But how many genuine macromastia models are out there that aren't blimps. Attached is an example of another model with similar proportions. As far as I'm concerned ill take abbi as her minimal effort is better than most. And that body is once in a lifetime. Untill the next comes around ill take what i can get. And cmon it really doesn't cost that much for sub.

 

[Nofrau]

I think you are barking up the wrong tree here.. I really dont believe converting to hardcore would solve Abbi's content \ performance problems. we have seen reluctant hardcore from beauties such as Alaura Grey and Miosotis and frankly its even more depressing.

I get what you mean about bringing sex to the photoshoot but with Secraa I think its another issue.. I think she is actually just not really happy about her tits and, like many well endowed women, is looking down on boob-worshipping men as simps. (and if we are on the subject, not all men in this niche are helpless as Abbi's staff.. Daktari is a master and there are other good examples like Samanta Lily's partner)

If I could train Abbi, sex would be the last step we would take.. first she needs yoga, dance and acting/modelling classes and maybe some psycho-drama and therapy-talk.. after she is happier and feels relaxed in her body - then we can insert sex to the equation.

I do agree that the pay-site-per-model business model seems outdated and it looks like the future is in all sorts of camming and personal engagement in the cost of production value...

Spend more time reading things.
I didn't suggest she go hardcore, and get porked by random strange men, which is the reference you made such as Miosotis and Alaura Grey. Neither were glamorous, both have very weird on screen presence, and because their nude content was done so poorly, their hardcore was even worse.

I suggested models that have these huge followings, hit and miss content and have done the same content, good, bad, amazing or mediocre, for a solid 10 years or longer, would find actual success by picking a well endowed cam partner, and delivering what most fans want.
There's 10 million smoking hot cam girls with giant tits, beautiful faces and some loser equipped with the shaft of shame dunkin it in them, and there's far from a thousand or more people tuning in each night, to watch them.

Models with the same content, and a huge following?
Yes, many would see some real success if they had a sex partner.
Clearly your view of a real attempt at hardcore from big busty models is of what looks like women grabbed at random off the street, because their tits were huge, and nobody cared to buy it.

LovelyLillith on the other hand hardly produces any content, did a couple awkward hardcore scenes with her very less than appealing or endowed husband, cranked out more "virtual sex" style content, and is able to live off of it. If she were smart, she would find a well hung guy, literally almost nothing of him but his dick and his man handling her, keep 90% of the focus on her, and I guarantee when some gigantic dick is taking 20 inch strokes through her amazing cleavage and shoots a gigantic load on her face and in her mouth, she literally starts making more money in a month, than she has in every previous year combined.

Big tit modeling as an industry isn't very structured or evolved dude. There's no tremendous force at the top ensuring content of certain styles and qualities, to ensure a demand, and push the rest of the industry into more serious business strategies. Not a lot of people follow it, and more women know who the giant tit legends are, than men asked at random, because women are more idealistic and see just what it is they might have to compete with IRL.

I personally get bored with a lot of big tit/ass pics and videos, nude and non, and see a lot of well known models that would just be better off picking a partner, and doing videos both live and edited, and keep him around so she's in mood on set for the photo edition. There's endless models that come and go, many that stay, but a majority that don't make an extravagant living, pump out quality photo sets and videos all year, and do live cam shows. They wouldn't likely benefit, at all, from fucking a husband or boyfriend on cam. Their following has been generated through the crude, amateur cam side of the industry.
Once they go that filthy, nobody in the industry thinks they can sell their pics and videos because there is a niche consumer base, and those guys spend huge bucks on a fantasy woman that is presented, as exclusively theirs. Great for those models, but shitty for the other 99%, and I see endless complaints from endless men about countless different models.

Tits the size of 2 earths, on a woman as beautiful as Abbi or one of the other internet veteran legends, with a dick that looks 10 inches long in their mouth, fucking their tits, putting them in 10 different positions and doing it both in edited videos, live shows and her doing solo photo shoots for both video styles?
They would need to hire someone to count their money!
Even chaturbate couples of nobodies talk about making $2,000 U.S. a night on average, any night of the week they decide to stream.

This is an industry that is moving nowhere, and the examples you gave, are examples of why it has never taken footing, grown, and brought in a larger audience. The only difference between us and other men is we're not attracted to women that don't have these fantastical bodies and gigantic tits, other men are attracted to them but nowhere near enough to care, and are satisfied sexually by a woman simply being a woman, and she has sex with him.
There's several million people in every country on earth, that would swing over this direction to watch some of these goddesses get fucked, like goddesses, not like hardcore shot for $500 in a couple hours with models that were likely prostitutes before they were ever even in photos.

Your regard to models that have gone hardcore, was just such a crude example, that I know we're on totally different pages in how we view women, in how we view these models, and most obviously, seeing the industry for what it is. Very crude and 40 years behind the times with now a massive pool of amaterus nobody has ever heard of, that are 10s by any human standards, and just dive head first into the shallow end of camming, thousands of amateur photos, and with enough of them, getting dorked by the shaft of shame as if ANYONE, man or woman, wants to watch tits the size of basketballs or watermelons, get titty fucked by 5".
Not only does it look pathetic, boring and completely unsatisfying for the woman, but it's all filmed and performed so poorly, like these people are absolute shit in bed and likely are.

From the grand business minded view, a lot of these models should take on an exclusive cam partner, and the industry will change entirely.
Compete or get left behind.
Right now, none do much of anything that is competing, and as someone with a lot of confidence, self esteem and options, staring at huge chested naked women isn't all that erotic after 10 or 15 minutes, regardless of who they are. You're selling the fantasy of sex and it's 10 hours a day of nothing but this, multiplied by 20 years of it on the internet?
You're thinking like a dinosaur.

 

[GimmeHimiwako]

This cracks me up.
First, if you think you can do better - go for it.

Get your head straight though. Cameras, lights, video editing software, etc is quite a large investment. You haven't considered that:
The model has to be motivated to work, usually that she needs money. So rich people with the resources for top notch production equipment aren't going to model, and models who want the money don't have the resources.

All of you think that you can just post a few videos and get instantly rich. This site deals in sharing "wins", the very existence of which limits financial motivation. I've created a lot of content, and I've never had to report the income on taxes because it's too piddly to matter.

And finally, some girls aren't a size zero. In my experience, fat shamers are just projecting their own self loathing. Glass houses and all.

 

[Nofrau]

This cracks me up.
First, if you think you can do better - go for it.

Get your head straight though. Cameras, lights, video editing software, etc is quite a large investment. You haven't considered that:
The model has to be motivated to work, usually that she needs money. So rich people with the resources for top notch production equipment aren't going to model, and models who want the money don't have the resources.

All of you think that you can just post a few videos and get instantly rich. This site deals in sharing "wins", the very existence of which limits financial motivation. I've created a lot of content, and I've never had to report the income on taxes because it's too piddly to matter.

And finally, some girls aren't a size zero. In my experience, fat shamers are just projecting their own self loathing. Glass houses and all.

You are clueless and just said this to someone with professional production experience, literally in Hollywood California.
Building a lighting set is cheap, as is good 1080p cameras and equipment, without dumping in thousands of dollars.
In your ignorant view and completely lack of experience in production of any kind, you hire 1 person for every single fucking job, right down to the gaffers that tape shit to the floor.
These production companies bring in 20 people, and create a false bill of particulars, so they can rob the models blind.
You're literally lecturing someone whose brother with a degree in photography, just took photos of some engagement ring worth tens of millions of dollars, and had armed guards in the room when he took the photo set.
The only thing he brought into that room worth thousands of dollars, was his camera.

Considering his college degree, decades as a professional with some of the biggest companies in the USA, and discussing equipment here and there over the years aside from my own personal experience, you're an arrogant and condescending idiot, that does what most people do, assume the person you want to get your ego trip off of, is a little stupider than you.

Lighting, setting up shots, editing etc. dude this stuff is all easy as fuck.
The model is either really into it, or she is not, because then even a shit quality production, produces top notch photos, as we see models produce all the time, literally just taking screen captures of them live streaming on camera.

I literally watch Abbi, and in her most erotic content which I enjoy, still get this impression that not only is she horny on cam, but she's longing to be horny for someone that doesn't actually exist. Whoever it is she thinks about, it aint who she's actually fuckin!
I see that with a lot of models that have hit and miss content, regarding how aroused they seem.
Everything else you tried to foolishly lecture me about, is utter bullshit.
$500 for a camera and $150 in lighting; the rest is up to your imagination in clothing, and where you can shoot for free, and what you can get away with shooting there.
You could still go literally to half of that cost with the right cheap camera, and a cheap lighting kit with some gobo filters.

 

[Connoisseur Junky]

Spend more time reading things.
I didn't suggest she go hardcore, and get porked by random strange men, which is the reference you made such as Miosotis and Alaura Grey. Neither were glamorous, both have very weird on screen presence, and because their nude content was done so poorly, their hardcore was even worse.

I suggested models that have these huge followings, hit and miss content and have done the same content, good, bad, amazing or mediocre, for a solid 10 years or longer, would find actual success by picking a well endowed cam partner, and delivering what most fans want.
There's 10 million smoking hot cam girls with giant tits, beautiful faces and some loser equipped with the shaft of shame dunkin it in them, and there's far from a thousand or more people tuning in each night, to watch them.

Models with the same content, and a huge following?
Yes, many would see some real success if they had a sex partner.
Clearly your view of a real attempt at hardcore from big busty models is of what looks like women grabbed at random off the street, because their tits were huge, and nobody cared to buy it.

LovelyLillith on the other hand hardly produces any content, did a couple awkward hardcore scenes with her very less than appealing or endowed husband, cranked out more "virtual sex" style content, and is able to live off of it. If she were smart, she would find a well hung guy, literally almost nothing of him but his dick and his man handling her, keep 90% of the focus on her, and I guarantee when some gigantic dick is taking 20 inch strokes through her amazing cleavage and shoots a gigantic load on her face and in her mouth, she literally starts making more money in a month, than she has in every previous year combined.

Big tit modeling as an industry isn't very structured or evolved dude. There's no tremendous force at the top ensuring content of certain styles and qualities, to ensure a demand, and push the rest of the industry into more serious business strategies. Not a lot of people follow it, and more women know who the giant tit legends are, than men asked at random, because women are more idealistic and see just what it is they might have to compete with IRL.

I personally get bored with a lot of big tit/ass pics and videos, nude and non, and see a lot of well known models that would just be better off picking a partner, and doing videos both live and edited, and keep him around so she's in mood on set for the photo edition. There's endless models that come and go, many that stay, but a majority that don't make an extravagant living, pump out quality photo sets and videos all year, and do live cam shows. They wouldn't likely benefit, at all, from fucking a husband or boyfriend on cam. Their following has been generated through the crude, amateur cam side of the industry.
Once they go that filthy, nobody in the industry thinks they can sell their pics and videos because there is a niche consumer base, and those guys spend huge bucks on a fantasy woman that is presented, as exclusively theirs. Great for those models, but shitty for the other 99%, and I see endless complaints from endless men about countless different models.

Tits the size of 2 earths, on a woman as beautiful as Abbi or one of the other internet veteran legends, with a dick that looks 10 inches long in their mouth, fucking their tits, putting them in 10 different positions and doing it both in edited videos, live shows and her doing solo photo shoots for both video styles?
They would need to hire someone to count their money!
Even chaturbate couples of nobodies talk about making $2,000 U.S. a night on average, any night of the week they decide to stream.

This is an industry that is moving nowhere, and the examples you gave, are examples of why it has never taken footing, grown, and brought in a larger audience. The only difference between us and other men is we're not attracted to women that don't have these fantastical bodies and gigantic tits, other men are attracted to them but nowhere near enough to care, and are satisfied sexually by a woman simply being a woman, and she has sex with him.
There's several million people in every country on earth, that would swing over this direction to watch some of these goddesses get fucked, like goddesses, not like hardcore shot for $500 in a couple hours with models that were likely prostitutes before they were ever even in photos.

Your regard to models that have gone hardcore, was just such a crude example, that I know we're on totally different pages in how we view women, in how we view these models, and most obviously, seeing the industry for what it is. Very crude and 40 years behind the times with now a massive pool of amaterus nobody has ever heard of, that are 10s by any human standards, and just dive head first into the shallow end of camming, thousands of amateur photos, and with enough of them, getting dorked by the shaft of shame as if ANYONE, man or woman, wants to watch tits the size of basketballs or watermelons, get titty fucked by 5".
Not only does it look pathetic, boring and completely unsatisfying for the woman, but it's all filmed and performed so poorly, like these people are absolute shit in bed and likely are.

From the grand business minded view, a lot of these models should take on an exclusive cam partner, and the industry will change entirely.
Compete or get left behind.
Right now, none do much of anything that is competing, and as someone with a lot of confidence, self esteem and options, staring at huge chested naked women isn't all that erotic after 10 or 15 minutes, regardless of who they are. You're selling the fantasy of sex and it's 10 hours a day of nothing but this, multiplied by 20 years of it on the internet?
You're thinking like a dinosaur.

wow, you sure like to rant.. I guess its the right thread and I can recognize your enthusiasm.. lets just keep it abbi secraa content specific..

your idea of porn monogamy is interesting and there are some good examples (cassi0pea) but look at Maria Moore who produced awkward hardcore with her husband (mostly the fucking.. she sucks good on cam). anyhow for some people doing hardcore can damage their life quality and I wouldnt want any of the models to be compromised.

let me just tell you that.. money isnt everything in life. i can read you live in a very rigid worldview but its not like that for everybody.

take care

 

[Connoisseur Junky]

This cracks me up.
First, if you think you can do better - go for it.

Get your head straight though. Cameras, lights, video editing software, etc is quite a large investment. You haven't considered that:
The model has to be motivated to work, usually that she needs money. So rich people with the resources for top notch production equipment aren't going to model, and models who want the money don't have the resources.

All of you think that you can just post a few videos and get instantly rich. This site deals in sharing "wins", the very existence of which limits financial motivation. I've created a lot of content, and I've never had to report the income on taxes because it's too piddly to matter.

And finally, some girls aren't a size zero. In my experience, fat shamers are just projecting their own self loathing. Glass houses and all.

well, it really depends on the style you are trying to achieve but.. its not a mammoth task to produce beautiful content with today's equipment .. cameras lights and CC license are all quite affordable and even great info and tutorials. just got to be a bit creative and actually care about it. abbi's staff had years of practice but very little improvement if any.