Premium Sites: Money for Non-Nude Content • My Thoughts and Opinion

[Ptar]

Interesting discussion in a lot of threads featuring models that have premium sites. i.e. Onlyfans, Patreon, Manyvids, etc.

There seems to be a lot of hate and disgust towards models that charge for access to a premium site, but only have non-nude content; no nudity.
If a model makes it very clear in her 'About' section that there will be no nudity, there should be no reason to be surprised when you find no nude content.
But here's the question: if she doesn't state that there is only non-nude, in very clear terms, is it right to assume there will be nude content? Do we have the right to complain if there isn't nudity? My opinion: I don't understand that.

Why can't a model choose her own business model? Recently Janine dropped the hint that she was short on cash this Christmas and if anyone wanted to paypal her some money that would be great. She also added that if you did, it would be a gift with nothing expected by you in return. People are really cranked at this request.

It occurred to me that this is no different than the Podcaster that offers up content every month and also has a Patreon for fans that want to support their creative efforts.
For example: https://www.patreon.com/lastpodcastontheleft
How is this any different? Where's the outrage over these guys? "How dare they ask for money for something that I enjoy each month?!"

Or how about Christina Hendricks? https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0376716/?ref_=nmls_hd
I have to pay to see her in a movie and she isn't nude? Does that make it a ripoff and people should boycott her movies?

Just my thoughts.... thanks for reading.
Ptar

p.s. Please keep the conversation civil.

 

[Dave2]

The issue I have is that once we allow these models to get away with it, and purchase their non nude content, we will never get nude content from that model.

Its like Gcupbaby. Great set of tits, but as long as men continue to allow her to get away with hiding her face, there is no incentive for her to show her face.

Buying their non nude content is not going to make these models switch to doing nude content.

However NOT purchasing their non nude content gives the model 2 options. Either find a real 9-5 job, or start providing nude content.

As far as supporting a regular actor, with non nude content, the ladies who are trying to sell their non nude content I consider adult models.

 

[Dave2]

As far as I’m concerned, not showing a face is the same as not wanting to post a fully nude photo.

it’s really no different than a guy taking a picture of his dick.

 

[Ptar]

The issue I have is that once we allow these models to get away with it, and purchase their non nude content, we will never get nude content from that model.

If she doesn't state anything about what she offers, but misleads people into believing that she'll do nude content by censoring pics for example (like Mary Lynn Neil), I think they should expect a certain backlash.

i respectfully disagree with both these statements.

What I'm hearing, using a different example:

Let's pretend I sell Insurance and a I have a loyal client base that work exclusively with me. And I start getting messages, emails, and phone calls from people begging me to install new ceramic tile in their kitchen. Really? I don't want to be a flooring installer, I never have and I never will. Of course, I turn down all offers to install any type of flooring.
Which results in a group of people encouraging others to boycott my insurance business, "If he has no customers, he'll have no choice. He'll have to install hardwood in my den!"

And no, I don't expect backlash. I just shake my head and ignore/block these people.
I have a business plan to make money and installing flooring just isn't part of that plan.

 

[Deafman23]

The issue I have is that once we allow these models to get away with it, and purchase their non nude content, we will never get nude content from that model.

Its like Gcupbaby. Great set of tits, but as long as men continue to allow her to get away with hiding her face, there is no incentive for her to show her face.

Buying their non nude content is not going to make these models switch to doing nude content.

However NOT purchasing their non nude content gives the model 2 options. Either find a real 9-5 job, or start providing nude content.

As far as supporting a regular actor, with non nude content, the ladies who are trying to sell their non nude content I consider adult models.

Well said.

As long as there are those paying for teasing/non-nude content the model has little to no motivation to step her game up. If people continue drooling over cleavage and complimenting the model for their greatness, the model is under the impression that this is acceptable and as long as she keeps doing this all is well. We can try to sugarcoat any way we want it. We want to see topless and/or nude and we will never see that if we keep celebrating their non-nude/non-topless pics. If the model receives no attention and no money she will then re-evaluate her methods and she will either continue doing things the same way while getting the same result or she will change her plans in an effort to get a different result.

 

[NeimaJordan86]

The Janine Address - The Overview

When I spoke on Janine asking for money I wanted to just share my distaste for the situation as a whole.

It was a criticism of the fact that we're all strangers and these circumstances / engagements are new to every one and I feel that we all should hold some accountability.

Including Janine.

I don't blame her asking for money at all as well as being clear on her intentions.

The thing is we're all presumably adults here sharing one common goal and its far from platonic and that's the issue.

You can say what you like to legally / morally arm yourself to remain justified in your actions but I think for a woman who doesn't want to engage her audience addressing their position bc she finds it distastful to then turn to the entire audience and ask for their money is slightly disingenuous and wrong.

Of course she is absolved by pure reasoning letting you know her position so you must respect. If you follow her she rears her audience constantly to be a respectable definition of person if she is to be approached which is right for a strong woman.

What's uncomfortable to me is to then use that audience who has changed the definition of your page and actions to solicit their money since they're there when you don't agree with having an audience there admiring your large chest ( engagement ) .

Don't get me wrong like I said I don't blame her. She needed the help she doesn't always ask but she does find ways around directly engaging ( referring to her breasts for money ). EBay is a prime example which again I don't blame her she just needs the help and doesnt want to make "content". Outside of the one time she was going to start a Patreon but it was 60/40 in favor of her making it. To me personally I feel the only reason she didnt commit was bc the percentage wasnt high enough to warrant her commitment along with a host of other reasons she detailed for not doing it. She stated not explicit content and not much more revealing than IG ( which needed to be defined )

All I'm saying is this is an awesome place with a lot of good /misunderstood people and I'm happy to share my thoughts / comments / ideas here but this is all new with the changing times and we're all strangers. Not to be a victim but to most and myself included breast obsession has had a hold of me since 8yrs old. Janine is a beautiful smart woman and this situation discussing / following a person with her ideas of engagement is wrong to share a lot of opinions on given she is a normal woman with what looks to be a happy life but knowing what she knows and her involvement with her audience is something I can respect because its her space but wrong given its use. They are all ppl with one common interest whom some are too sick mentally to articulate themselves appropriately and it is beneath you to ask them as a whole for money.

 

[shodaime]

This is not going to go well. Some guys don’t understand a sexy woman being able to make money and not be naked. There are guys who think if you have big tits your only options are celibacy or slut. That can’t be good.

 

[NeimaJordan86]

Yeah some people think that way but not everyone and honestly its not good either way as of now so hopefully we all figure out how to get along if people continue to interact like this. I respect women either way but there is also people with different ideas.

 

[Dave2]

This is not going to go well. Some guys don’t understand a sexy woman being able to make money and not be naked. There are guys who think if you have big tits your only options are celibacy or slut. That can’t be good.

I agree, but at the same time don’t get a job dancing at a topless strip club if you don’t plan on showing your boobs.

If I wanted to see girls walking around in bikinis and tight outfits, I can go to places like Hooters.

These women are promoting themselves among other models who post nude photos, and want to get offended when we ask for nudes.

But these models know if they wanted to start a clothed Facebook group for example, nobody would go looking for them there.

 

[shodaime]

I agree, but at the same time don’t get a job dancing at a topless strip club if you don’t plan on showing your boobs.

If I wanted to see girls walking around in bikinis and tight outfits, I can go to places like Hooters.

These women are promoting themselves among other models who post nude photos, and want to get offended when we ask for nudes.

But these models know if they wanted to start a clothed Facebook group for example, nobody would go looking for them there.

This is not at all what they are doing. This analogy is bad. Also you’re viewing them in terms that directly relate to you only.
Instagram is not a strip club.

 

[Deleted member 106601]

I'd like to remind everyone as well that this site is called Tits IN Tops. No-one is logging in to a thread dissapointed to be greeted by topless photos exclaiming if they wanted to see bare boobs they could've gone to Pornhub.

so long as they've been upfront with what they're offering there's no reason to complain. When you come across a homeless person or donate to a charity do you wave the money over them lauding, "what can you do for me!? EARN IT!" or do you either donate and/or move on.

 

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[Deafman23]

I'd like to remind everyone as well that this site is called Tits IN Tops. No-one is logging in to a thread dissapointed to be greeted by topless photos exclaiming if they wanted to see bare boobs they could've gone to Pornhub.

so long as they've been upfront with what they're offering there's no reason to complain. When you come across a homeless person or donate to a charity do you wave the money over them lauding, "what can you do for me!? EARN IT!" or do you either donate and/or move on.

You made a real good point with "the site is called Tits In Tops". Thus, it would be a tremendous idea if this site branched off into another site called Tits Out or something similar. That way those who want to see "in tops" could visit here and those who only want to see "out" visit there. Years ago, BET Network did something similar where during the daytime they showed regular videos but after midnight or so they showed more explicit videos. This would be great for the members because they could visit either or and know exactly what they will be depicted. Also, I think it would greatly illustrate to both the members and the models exactly what kind of content is most desirable.

 

[Ptar]

You made a real good point with "the site is called Tits In Tops". Thus, it would be a tremendous idea if this site branched off into another site called Tits Out or something similar. That way those who want to see "in tops" could visit here and those who only want to see "out" visit there. Years ago, BET Network did something similar where during the daytime they showed regular videos but after midnight or so they showed more explicit videos. This would be great for the members because they could visit either or and know exactly what they will be depicted. Also, I think it would greatly illustrate to both the members and the models exactly what kind of content is most desirable.

Not sure how the conversation got so far off track.
But everyone knows that we do have a lot of topless content on the Forum?
With a sub-forum full of topless photos?

 

[polygon2016]

I have what I think is an interesting example. Little awhile back I made thread about the tiktoker turned onlyfans jazminealeahh. Her content is non-nude it states on the page that there is no full nude content. The issue is the content like I state in the thread is that it is PG rated content. The videos she post on the page are actual tiktoks with the logo and everything. An example such as Tamara she does non-nude but she does push about as far as can with non-nude content. The complaints jazeminealeahh have seen on her onlyfans page and have spilled over into tiktok comments is how PG it is. She makes no attempts to expand out on any request people make. I feel as far as NN content you have tamara (shows a lot) one end then jazminealeahh (does not try at all) on the other end. At what point does it not matter even make adult content NN wise? How much do you need show for it be even worth doing?

 

[Ptar]

I agree @polygon2016 There are definitely varying degrees of nonude content. Tamara and Jalande being prime examples of riding the line to nudity.

In the end I guess, it all comes down to what a woman feels comfortable with and the art they're creating. And, of course, the audience they're attracting.
I'm not certain how many subscribers Jalande has, but she has over 28,000+ Likes on her Premium content. There is obviously a market for nonude content.
As much as there is a market for feet, furry's, latex, and balloons.

 

[Deafman23]

Not sure how the conversation got so far off track.
But everyone knows that we do have a lot of topless content on the Forum?
With a sub-forum full of topless photos?

I don't think anyone's message has been off track but just in case mine is, I still hope the near future includes a better identification of nude and non-nude content. Yet, I think several members have expressed the same thing in different ways. For example, I recall a member asking if all subject headings could start containing the word "wins" if wins are included because I am confident in saying that most of the members and visitors who come to this site come to see wins. Everyone understands and respects that not every model or image will be either nude or topless, but it would be so much more helpful if we were able to divide the nude and non-nude models and images. Threads are at times 20 pages deep and most visit every page hoping to see wins only to see no wins. I am really hopeful that this site soon divides nude/topless and non-nude.

So, Ptar here's the issue. If a model is non-nude that is fine but what often happens is models blur the line. If you are non-nude stay in that lane. Don't blur the line by posting almost nudes and then get offended when someone wants to see nude. You dangle a steak in front of lions and then say, "ok lions appreciate me dangling the steak in front of you and don't want to taste it".

 

[Ptar]

Nonude Sub-Forum: (there may be the odd topless, but as a rule it's a nonude sub-forum)
https://titsintops.com/phpBB2/index.php?forums/tits-in-tops-social-media.1/

Nude Sub-Forum: (yes, there may be some nonude content)
https://titsintops.com/phpBB2/index.php?forums/busty-amateurs.7/

So, Ptar here's the issue. If a model is non-nude that is fine but what often happens is models blur the line. If you are non-nude stay in that lane. Don't blur the line by posting almost nudes and then get offended when someone wants to see nude. You dangle a steak in front of lions and then say, "ok lions appreciate me dangling the steak in front of you and don't want to taste it".

This has been argued around the block and back again. Many threads have discussed this. I don't have the energy to explain it again. See the first post of this thread: https://titsintops.com/phpBB2/index...-•-my-thoughts-and-opinion.119192/post-908757