Anybody know any models who actually talk to their fans? As opposed to having an account manager RP with you? I'm willing to pay.

Any models willing to offer consultation on what I'm trying to learn, this is what I'm trying to learn.

Not for what I wanna learn. I wanna learn what they seek in sexual partners.

Not they themselves, but models in this industry. Their friends. Based on what they know about their peers and collaborators and the social scene as a whole, what do I have to do to get in?
 
Presently I have nothing, what I'm trying to figure out is what exactly I need to offer. So I can go get it.

The goal is to first figure out what they want, and THEN become what they want. I can't make a move until I have a plan.
You've got this the wrong way round! You are trying to create something out of yourself when it's easier to make her become what you want.

Step 1) Find a really plain Jane woman who is willing to do anything for you because she has nothing going on with her life.

Step 2) Get her to the plastic surgeon and pump her full of so much filler and silicone that she becomes a duck faced squat butt chick with enough sillicone in her tits to supply next years batch of iPhone productions.

Optional step 3) Start an OF and pimp her/yourselves out to simps and watch your future childrens college fund come in.

Simps get jerk off material, you get your dream woman, she gets her bag, everyone's a winner.
 
You've got this the wrong way round! You are trying to create something out of yourself when it's easier to make her become what you want.

Step 1) Find a really plain Jane woman who is willing to do anything for you because she has nothing going on with her life.

Step 2) Get her to the plastic surgeon and pump her full of so much filler and silicone that she becomes a duck faced squat butt chick with enough sillicone in her tits to supply next years batch of iPhone productions.

Optional step 3) Start an OF and pimp her/yourselves out to simps and watch your future childrens college fund come in.

Simps get jerk off material, you get your dream woman, she gets her bag, everyone's a winner.

What if I'm not looking for a wife? What if I'm looking for a group of non-monogamous fuck buddies?

That's what makes finding an already successful woman so appealing. I'm looking for my "in" into this social scene. I meet her, and through her and through living this life I meet other women like her.
 
What if I'm not looking for a wife? What if I'm looking for a group of non-monogamous fuck buddies?

That's what makes finding an already successful woman so appealing. I'm looking for my "in" into this social scene. I meet her, and through her and through living this life I meet other women like her.

Unless you look like Chris Hemsworth or have a huge social following that they can benefit from it just is not going to happen unless you see them as an escort and pay them per hook up. Life doesn't work like a harem anime where you build up a coterie of busty women through the sheer presence of personality sadly.

I have to admire the self belief though.

But if you have any decently looking female friends ask to see what their tinder or Instagram dms look like and you will realise that the competition is not only fierce but numerous and trying to get with her 24/7.
 
Unless you look like Chris Hemsworth or have a huge social following that they can benefit from it just is not going to happen unless you see them as an escort and pay them per hook up. Life doesn't work like a harem anime where you build up a coterie of busty women through the sheer presence of personality sadly.

I have to admire the self belief though.

But if you have any decently looking female friends ask to see what their tinder or Instagram dms look like and you will realise that the competition is not only fierce but numerous and trying to get with her 24/7.

It doesn't have to be presence of personality. That's why I'm asking how it's typically done. How it actually happens. And the only real way to know that is to ask the women themselves.

These women are seeking and selecting men for their personal enjoyment. I just need to know what these women are looking for, and then be/do that.
 
It doesn't have to be presence of personality. That's why I'm asking how it's typically done. How it actually happens. And the only real way to know that is to ask the women themselves.

These women are seeking and selecting men for their personal enjoyment. I just need to know what these women are looking for, and then be/do

people need to stop treating onlyfans like it’s a dating app.
 
It doesn't have to be presence of personality. That's why I'm asking how it's typically done. How it actually happens. And the only real way to know that is to ask the women themselves.

These women are seeking and selecting men for their personal enjoyment. I just need to know what these women are looking for, and then be/do that.

Ok you don't seem overly retentive so I am unsure how to phrase it. But the morbidly curious part of me keeps trying.

Yes, it does not have to be personality BUT what do YOU bring in lieu of that then? I saw in another thread that you are currently unemployed so you'll have to strike money from the attributes (unless you have good savings/investments ofc) you can offer. If you don't have money or personality I can only hope you bring a pornstar schlong or look like a model (is that you in your pfp?) otherwise you are shit out of luck mate. Just like the rest of us 99.99% XD
 
Yeah, but the women themselves have sex for fun sometimes, right? Not for business? As a matter of their own pleasure?

A porn star wouldn't charge her own husband to have sex with her, right? So there must be scenarios in which a porn star would have sex with someone and not want money in exchange.
Let’s say your married to a professional escort.

Sure the lady may love you, but do you think the lady is gonna want to come home and fuck you when she has been fucking other guys all week long?

It’s like do you want to come home from work and have to work some more when you get home.

I would almost make the argument that men who are married or are dating porn stars or professional escorts are getting less sex than a man who is not.

You would think it as the opposite way around
 
Ok you don't seem overly retentive so I am unsure how to phrase it. But the morbidly curious part of me keeps trying.

Yes, it does not have to be personality BUT what do YOU bring in lieu of that then? I saw in another thread that you are currently unemployed so you'll have to strike money from the attributes (unless you have good savings/investments ofc) you can offer. If you don't have money or personality I can only hope you bring a pornstar schlong or look like a model (is that you in your pfp?) otherwise you are shit out of luck mate. Just like the rest of us 99.99% XD

I know you already asked me what I bring to the table, but I already said "I need to know what it is that these women want first, then I'll acquire it."

It would be a waste of time saying something like "Well, I make lots of money and have a big dick" if that's not going to make me friends with porn stars. Assuming I had lots of money and a big dick. That's why you ask first.

Let’s say your married to a professional escort.

Sure the lady may love you, but do you think the lady is gonna want to come home and fuck you when she has been fucking other guys all week long?

It’s like do you want to come home from work and have to work some more when you get home.

I would almost make the argument that men who are married or are dating porn stars or professional escorts are getting less sex than a man who is not.

You would think it as the opposite way around

Are they? Do porn stars and escorts hate sex so much that they only do it when they're working?
 
It's important to understand that trying to change into someone you're not just to attract women (and erotic models and pornstars are also women) is not the best approach. What many women truly value in a man is authenticity. Being authentic means being true to yourself, embracing your unique qualities, and showing genuine sincerity. Authenticity is attractive because it reflects confidence and honesty. Instead of trying to fit a specific mold, focus on improving yourself, building self-confidence, and pursuing your passions. When you're authentic, you're more likely to attract someone who appreciates you for who you are rather than for who you pretend to be. So be yourself, be confident, and let your true personality shine, as that's what many women are looking for in a partner or friendship.
 
It's important to understand that trying to change into someone you're not just to attract women (and erotic models and pornstars are also women) is not the best approach. What many women truly value in a man is authenticity. Being authentic means being true to yourself, embracing your unique qualities, and showing genuine sincerity. Authenticity is attractive because it reflects confidence and honesty. Instead of trying to fit a specific mold, focus on improving yourself, building self-confidence, and pursuing your passions. When you're authentic, you're more likely to attract someone who appreciates you for who you are rather than for who you pretend to be. So be yourself, be confident, and let your true personality shine, as that's what many women are looking for in a partner or friendship.

Would it be changing myself into someone I'm not? If I wasn't into photography, but then decided to pick up a photography hobby, would that be someone I'm not?
 
try an actual dating app, go out and meet people, socialize, models are looking to sell content, they aren't looking for love or relationships.

But models do enjoy sex, same as the rest of us, right? What if I could be whatever it was they sought in a sexual partner?
 
I know you already asked me what I bring to the table, but I already said "I need to know what it is that these women want first, then I'll acquire it."

It would be a waste of time saying something like "Well, I make lots of money and have a big dick" if that's not going to make me friends with porn stars. Assuming I had lots of money and a big dick. That's why you ask first.
This idea of speaking with OF girls to try and glean the ability to woo them via some esoteric knowledge XD

If anything this 'plan' would be better served by trying to speak with the guys who actually do manage to sleep with these women. You ask a fisherman not a fish and all that.
 
This idea of speaking with OF girls to try and glean the ability to woo them via some esoteric knowledge XD

If anything this 'plan' would be better served by trying to speak with the guys who actually do manage to sleep with these women. You ask a fisherman not a fish and all that.

I see it as the women who pick the men. One man might have some of the things she's looking for, but the woman herself can tell me everything she's looking for.
 
If you want to fuck models, then you have to go to where models hang out and socialize. To be honest, you need to be loaded and connected to the right people to go to parties where these girls are at. Or be a reliable coke dealer lol. Realize they get hit on non-stop so you got to be a cut or two above so she notices you in a sea of simps. For instance, Caroline Vreeland used to hang out with and likely fucked, Alexander Soros, son of one of the most powerful people in the world. That tier of woman is hard to get even with the right wealth and connections.

You are better off just paying them as escorts. You’ll find most of them don’t bring much to the table and there will be guys trying to fuck with your relationship nonstop. Once you bang a couple of these models, you’ll realize there’s nothing special about them and your dreams of being an international playboy will fade. Take it from some who has fucked several models and porn stars.
 
If you want to fuck models, then you have to go to where models hang out and socialize. To be honest, you need to be loaded and connected to the right people to go to parties where these girls are at. Or be a reliable coke dealer lol. Realize they get hit on non-stop so you got to be a cut or two above so she notices you in a sea of simps. For instance, Caroline Vreeland used to hang out with and likely fucked, Alexander Soros, son of one of the most powerful people in the world. That tier of woman is hard to get even with the right wealth and connections.

You are better off just paying them as escorts. You’ll find most of them don’t bring much to the table and there will be guys trying to fuck with your relationship nonstop. Once you bang a couple of these models, you’ll realize there’s nothing special about them and your dreams of being an international playboy will fade. Take it from some who has fucked several models and porn stars.

Who are the right people, and how do I get connected to them?
 
Who are the right people, and how do I get connected to them?

He just explained really.

'Build it and they will come'

You have to have something they want to draw them to you, rather than thinking you can simply insert yourself into that lifestyle. Insane wealth, drugs, dick, height or fame are usually some of the baseline requirements. If you lack those then honestly just visit an escort as mentioned above.
 
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